Shri Mataji: Yes there are, there are mantras which are according to the centers, which are in trouble. For example, this is the center between the optic chiasma, is the center of Christ. So now, if the Kundalini has stopped at that point, then you have to take His name, and it opens up. But you have to be a Realized soul first of all. You must have the authority. Then it opens out that …
Interviewer: Now what said Buddha, for instance? He was talking about the way which is soft in the beginning, soft in the middle and soft in the end. Shri Mataji: Yes, He did, but Buddha’s times are over now. We have passed through that also. Those times are over now. Buddha had, you see – because Buddha Himself was so surprised later on that if you talk about God, you see, people just start thinking …
Interviewer: So would you see it as, I mean to come back to the question of the New Age, is one of the signs of New Age that you are travelling around? Shri Mataji: Nothing, this is the New Age I have started. You see, we had a very great artist from India who came here, he is a shennai player. He is a Muslim gentleman. He said, “These are all [Khalists ?], these are …
Interviewer: So is this Kundalini the same like Atman? Shri Mataji: No, Atma is Spirit in the heart. Now I’ll tell you from the another side, so you will understand. See, we can say that God Almighty is reflected within your heart as Atma, all right? And the Kundalini is the power of God. She is desire that we all should get our Realization. She is reflected in you as Kundalini, as the Holy Ghost. So this Kundalini …
Interviewer: Okay, now would you say that every person being interested in Sahaja Yoga is mature to get this Realization from You? Shri Mataji: Not necessary. He can give Realization. He can give it, they are all doing it, not Me. In the beginning I gave it to some. And now they are doing it. It’s like one light which is enlightened can enlighten many. But to begin with it was Me, all right. (Shri …
Interviewer: Shri Mataji, what is Sahaja Yoga? I mean, what is the main idea of it? Shri Mataji: Sahaja, Saha means with, Ja means born. Born with you. That is spontaneous. Yoga means Union with the Divine. Now, many people in the modern times won’t believe there’s anything like Divine. But supposing I say, “There is,” with an open mind of a scientist you must accept it as a hypothesis to begin with. Now, we …
Interviewer: And what is this technique (Sahaja Yoga Self-Realiszation) about? Shri Mataji: It’s a very – depending on a person. Now see, we will take your case for example. (Shri Mataji laughing) You are a very busy person, one thing. Interviewer (laughing): How do you know? Shri Mataji: and you are very futuristic Interviewer: Yes. Shri Mataji: and you plan a lot, you think a lot. Such a person we call as a right-sided person. …
Interviewer: So, you are talking about God as a real entity, as an existing entity. God, I mean, is existing, is something for you? Shri Mataji: Of course. Interviewer: Yes. Shri Mataji: Of course He exists. Interviewer: Excuse me that I’m asking this [it was not clear for me ?]. Shri Mataji: No, no, it’s correct, it’s correct, it’s correct. No, no, what I am saying is true. But I would say in modern times, …
Interviewer: What is the place of morality in your system? Shri Mataji: It’s innate. It’s innate. I don’t have to tell you, “Don’t do this, don’t do that,” it’s all innate with you. As soon as you get the light you drop the snakes. That’s all. You don’t have to ask Me, it just works out. The morality part works by itself, it’s innate. You know that this if do I’ll lose my vibrations. It’s …
Interviewer: I personally would doubt that human society has ripened, or has improved. If you look throughout the world, then more wars than ever, more people than ever. Shri Mataji: Yes, it is, it has to be, it has to be. It has to be at the worst time when we will be having. It’s written down in the Nala Akhyana. Is there was one fellow called Nala, and his wife was separated by this …
Interviewer: How did you begin? Shri Mataji: I was born like this. I was born with the same awareness as we call as a Self Realized Soul. But I knew that I’ve to do some job about it. To give Realization to one person is easy, but to give it to a mass is very difficult. So I had to understand human beings, how I could manage a en-masse Realization. And then I learnt it, …
Interviewer: I am working on an issue on what is called New Age. Shri Mataji: Oh, I see. Now this New Age people, I have read about them, because they came to this place called as Mind and Body Exhibition in London. They invited Me also, but I didn’t go. Because you see that’s also a money-oriented business. And I don’t want to go this mind and thing where there is money business is going …
