Question: Is Gorbachev is a walk-in, which means that is he from some other place which is advanced soul?
Shri Mataji: He is a realized soul, no doubt, he is. That’s why it’s working out. He knows me very well. He is a realized soul. That you recognized him, I’m very happy to know that. He is and look at them, how lucky they are to have him there. And, he is a very sensible man, no doubt. Even Lenin was. Lenin was a realized soul, you will be surprised, but he was forced by all his party members. He was alone, you see. And, all of them forced him to take a course of line which was really proved later on. But whatever was his state, talked about stateless state and all that was his dream and that’s coming true. He was also a realized soul. But he went onto a wrong line and it took so much time for them to come back and they had horrible despotic people, no doubt but the way the Gorbachev is doing is great and I have a rapport with him and he is a very great man, I must say. And he has tremendous respect for me. Because we are of the same style, you can say, the same line, that’s why.
You, too, had in America. You had, say, Abraham Lincoln was a realized soul, no doubt. And, we had Mahatma Gandhi. We had many people, but they were singled out. They couldn’t give realizations to others. They were singled out and they had to fight, but now you all can become realized souls. We have to have many more to get peace, to get joy, to get what we deserve.