Interviewer: Shri Mataji, don’t you know many people that want more of yoga than yoga can give.
Shri Mataji: You see, yoga is a big misnomer in the West, people don’t know what this yoga is. Because even if you read Patanjali, it is said that you have to get to your Self–Realization and then how to grow in your Self–Realization. Once you start growing in your Self–Realization, you develop such a personality that you see the whole world as one. You reach your wholesomeness. And when you reach your wholesomeness the complete balance and the curative sense comes in. Like you see, if there is a problem in my left finger, I’ll try to rub it, all right, I rub it and I soothe myself, whom am I helping, whom am I supporting, what is a developing country, what is a developed country, you see? You need something from the developing and you have to have the developed. So the whole thing is, that we haven’t got the wholesomeness. We are not integrated. The whole world is not integrated so far. It’s only possible when you reach that point, which is within us, which is collectively conscious, and that is the Spirit. Once you reach that point, you hit the collective consciousness, and when you become collective, you understand the wholesomeness of yourself.
So what people are seeking here in yoga, is really something that is brought from there by people who don’t understand. Yoga means union with the Divine, it means union with the Divine. When you become one with the Divine, the Divine starts flowing through you and you become part and parcel of the whole. You become. It’s not question of just taking a certificate. It’s not running on the street or standing on your heads, it’s not yoga. It’s just one 16th and 16th part of something we bid that you have to understand that, if there is a problem, physical problem, what exercise particularly you have to do. But that, too, is only possible when you get your Realization. Before Realization you don’t know. Where you are sick people don’t know. They go mad, but they don’t know that they are getting mad.
So the craziness that you find or the imbalances you find is lost, because we have just turned our faces to that thing called the Spirit, because we could not reach there with our mental projection. So what we have to do, is just take to this new dimensional approach by which you become that thing that you have to become, for which you have come on this earth. And that, if you get it, you are there.
You have so many dimensions. I mean now for me, you know, I’m a wife of a person who has to shake sometimes hands with 600 people on one side (Shri Mataji laughing) and I have to deal with people on that level, and that sort of people and I am also doing this, I have decorated my house. I mean, I can do 1000 and one thing and still I’m very relaxed person.
Interviewer: Yeah, yeah.
Shri Mataji: So what you have to achieve is everything what we talk of, see, now we talk of democracy, we talk of communism, though both are artificial to my mind, because unless and until you have something, how are you a capitalist? You have nothing. What do we have? We have nothing but plastics. What do we have? You see, when you have something like I would say, I’m a great capitalist because I have all the powers, (Shri Mataji laughing) all right and I’m the greatest communist, because I must distribute. So, in essence, I am the real capitalist and a real communist. So all your ideas that are, are really the glimpses of that great truth. Communism is – I’m the greatest communist, I’m the greatest capitalist. All your ideas about economics is, now economics is so sensible, that it says that in general wants are not satiable, in particular they are. So that means the want, that means this matter is not going to give you satisfaction. So where is the satisfaction? It is in the Spirit. You see, everything aims at that, points at that. But one should see the point.
Interviewer: Thank you!
Shri Mataji: May God bless you! Thank you!